Comments on: Rock and Shock: The Day My Love Died. http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/2010/10/29/rock-and-shock-the-day-my-love-died/ THE MAGAZINE THAT LEAVES MARKS Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:16:11 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Kevin http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/2010/10/29/rock-and-shock-the-day-my-love-died/comment-page-1/#comment-7325 Kevin Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:00:07 +0000 http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/?p=3342#comment-7325 You'd like..if YOU'D like..damn auto correct. You’d like..if YOU’D like..damn auto correct.

]]> By: Kevin http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/2010/10/29/rock-and-shock-the-day-my-love-died/comment-page-1/#comment-7324 Kevin Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:48:26 +0000 http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/?p=3342#comment-7324 Fantastic. And I'd also like to offer you passes to this years event so we can say hello. Just give me your full name and I'll take care of it.. If your like of course. ;) Fantastic. And I’d also like to offer you passes to this years event so we can say hello. Just give me your full name and I’ll take care of it.. If your like of course. ;)

]]> By: fallon http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/2010/10/29/rock-and-shock-the-day-my-love-died/comment-page-1/#comment-7313 fallon Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:55:04 +0000 http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/?p=3342#comment-7313 Kevin, I really appreciate you weighing in on this... Anytime we can get more perspectives from how the cons are run, it helps the community have a healthy conversation about it. I am going to repost this comment as its own article, as I think it could be helpful for convention goers to see both sides. Thanks! Fallon Kevin, I really appreciate you weighing in on this… Anytime we can get more perspectives from how the cons are run, it helps the community have a healthy conversation about it. I am going to repost this comment as its own article, as I think it could be helpful for convention goers to see both sides.

Thanks!
Fallon

]]> By: Kevin http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/2010/10/29/rock-and-shock-the-day-my-love-died/comment-page-1/#comment-7312 Kevin Sun, 09 Sep 2012 13:55:09 +0000 http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/?p=3342#comment-7312 Ps I should mention that I don't make ANY money off the convention an neither does my partner. Ps I should mention that I don’t make ANY money off the convention an neither does my partner.

]]> By: Kevin http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/2010/10/29/rock-and-shock-the-day-my-love-died/comment-page-1/#comment-7310 Kevin Sun, 09 Sep 2012 13:32:58 +0000 http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/?p=3342#comment-7310 Through my own fault, I am just now reading this..I found it while searching for something but feel I should comment. I'm the creator of Rock And Shock as well as, the co-founder. I am like every one of you..I began going to horror conventions when I was young. I flipped at the opportunity to buy stuff,meet people I'd watched, and hang out with others who had similar interests. I continued to attend cons all over, driving to most but if I wanted to meet someone bad enough..saving to fly. Chiller Theatre,now the largest horror and pop culture convention in the country was in a gymnasium back then..and I thought it was amazing! I met Tom Savini and several stars of Hammer Films..absolute film fan geekdom heaven! My initial concept for Rock And Shock was to find a way to have fans just pay to attend the show and for what they purchase from vendors. I wanted to figure out if there was a way to have all the autographs be free and just pay the guests to be there. When I started attending these conventions the autographs were normally $5 for black and white, $10 for color. Imagine how awesome that would be now! At some point everyone's prices went up to $15 and now, for the most part $20. We do not pay anyone to attend, just their transportation, room and etc. The ability to pay everyone to come then give away signatures would be money that has to come from somewhere,and the person who provided that would expect it back ! We still tried the first year by contacting celebrities we already were friends with, had relationships with, or met several times over the years. There were a couple who agreed to do it for free the first time and help us get a start..but I assure you that isn't the norm... I felt sad about the same things you have when I was just an attendee, but I also understand that in the past seven or eight years there's actuall been less work, a bad economy, a massive writers strike that kept people from production, and less decent horror films. All of these factors that prevented anyone from just showing up in another city and giving away things for free to adoring fans. Believe me I wish they all could...but not only would they lose out..we wouldn't be able to get the people we all want to see sometimes. Again, I agree that when people charge to have a photo taken with them, or charge more than others, it makes you feel cheated. It does get costly, and you do spend because it's hard to resist! I brought Adam Green to the show and he will be. Ack with the cast of HOLLISTON this year. Yes, he is awesome..as is every other celebrity we book for the most part...but they do need to make money. We have tried every suggestion you all mentioned, dont think se havent..but its already a cost to have something this huge in our area for fans. You sill find it is like this at every show, sometimes worse..but maybe one day we'll be able to fund a con in a way its a fan love fest and everyone is happy.. Now if anyone wins the lottery..we can talk. :) I encourage any of you who still actually attend to come talk to me, we are happy to meet with anyone and I'm very approachable during the weekend. Still a fan who wants to make other fans happy about horror! Kevin Barbare Sorry for typos I was frantically typing this out on my phone. Through my own fault, I am just now reading this..I found it while searching for something but feel I should comment.
I’m the creator of Rock And Shock as well as, the co-founder. I am like every one of you..I began going to horror conventions when I was young. I flipped at the opportunity to buy stuff,meet people I’d watched, and hang out with others who had similar interests.
I continued to attend cons all over, driving to most but if I wanted to meet someone bad enough..saving to fly. Chiller Theatre,now the largest horror and pop culture convention in the country was in a gymnasium back then..and I thought it was amazing! I met Tom Savini and several stars of Hammer Films..absolute film fan geekdom heaven!
My initial concept for Rock And Shock was to find a way to have fans just pay to attend the show and for what they purchase from vendors. I wanted to figure out if there was a way to have all the autographs be free and just pay the guests to be there.
When I started attending these conventions the autographs were normally $5 for black and white, $10 for color. Imagine how awesome that would be now! At some point everyone’s prices went up to $15 and now, for the most part $20.
We do not pay anyone to attend, just their transportation, room and etc. The ability to pay everyone to come then give away signatures would be money that has to come from somewhere,and the person who provided that would expect it back ! We still tried the first year by contacting celebrities we already were friends with, had relationships with, or met several times over the years. There were a couple who agreed to do it for free the first time and help us get a start..but I assure you that isn’t the norm…
I felt sad about the same things you have when I was just an attendee, but I also understand that in the past seven or eight years there’s actuall been less work, a bad economy, a massive writers strike that kept people from production, and less decent horror films.
All of these factors that prevented anyone from just showing up in another city and giving away things for free to adoring fans. Believe me I wish they all could…but not only would they lose out..we wouldn’t be able to get the people we all want to see sometimes.
Again, I agree that when people charge to have a photo taken with them, or charge more than others, it makes you feel cheated. It does get costly, and you do spend because it’s hard to resist!
I brought Adam Green to the show and he will be. Ack with the cast of HOLLISTON this year. Yes, he is awesome..as is every other celebrity we book for the most part…but they do need to make money.
We have tried every suggestion you all mentioned, dont think se havent..but its already a cost to have something this huge in our area for fans. You sill find it is like this at every show, sometimes worse..but maybe one day we’ll be able to fund a con in a way its a fan love fest and everyone is happy..
Now if anyone wins the lottery..we can talk. :)
I encourage any of you who still actually attend to come talk to me, we are happy to meet with anyone and I’m very approachable during the weekend.
Still a fan who wants to make other fans happy about horror!
Kevin Barbare

Sorry for typos I was frantically typing this out on my phone.

]]> By: Kathy S. http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/2010/10/29/rock-and-shock-the-day-my-love-died/comment-page-1/#comment-4706 Kathy S. Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:20:53 +0000 http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/?p=3342#comment-4706 I have to definitely agree with you Tony!!! I've been going to Rock and Shock for several years now. It seems to be getting way out of control. With this year being the worst by far. I was so looking forward to meeting Ace Frehley from KISS. It was definitely the biggest reason I was most excited to go to the show. I've been a diehard fan since I was 12! Then to get there to find out you had to pay $60.00! I was floored. Not only did you have to pay $60.00 you had a list of rules you HAD to follow. They were the ones who were taking the photos and you had to go on their website through a Rock and Shock link to get your photo! Robert Englund also charged $50.00!!! It was $30.00 for an autograph and $20.00 for a photo! I only got the photo. What a disappointment considering I brought my Freddy Kreuger action finger with me to be signed. AND I stood in line for about an hour and 45 minutes! Long gone are the says you get to see your favorite horror movie idol for ONE PRICE! I feel the industry is a money hungry industry and with the economy the way it is. No one has this kind of money. I met several of my favorite horror icons this weekend and even forewent either the picture or the signatures and spent well over $225.00! That's not even including, parking, ticket for two days, my hotel and so much more. It's why I have so much love for Jack Ketchum! He comes in and doesn't charge one dime!! I spent a good 25 minutes with him and he signed a good 5 of my books and I bought two books from him!! I was happy to buy the books! He's my favorite Author! I love the fact he doesn't charge and I have more respect for him because HE DOES NOT!!!! Way to go Tony with this Article you nailed it!!!! I have to definitely agree with you Tony!!! I’ve been going to Rock and Shock for several years now. It seems to be getting way out of control. With this year being the worst by far. I was so looking forward to meeting Ace Frehley from KISS. It was definitely the biggest reason I was most excited to go to the show. I’ve been a diehard fan since I was 12! Then to get there to find out you had to pay $60.00! I was floored. Not only did you have to pay $60.00 you had a list of rules you HAD to follow. They were the ones who were taking the photos and you had to go on their website through a Rock and Shock link to get your photo!

Robert Englund also charged $50.00!!! It was $30.00 for an autograph and $20.00 for a photo! I only got the photo. What a disappointment considering I brought my Freddy Kreuger action finger with me to be signed. AND I stood in line for about an hour and 45 minutes!

Long gone are the says you get to see your favorite horror movie idol for ONE PRICE! I feel the industry is a money hungry industry and with the economy the way it is. No one has this kind of money. I met several of my favorite horror icons this weekend and even forewent either the picture or the signatures and spent well over $225.00! That’s not even including, parking, ticket for two days, my hotel and so much more.

It’s why I have so much love for Jack Ketchum! He comes in and doesn’t charge one dime!! I spent a good 25 minutes with him and he signed a good 5 of my books and I bought two books from him!! I was happy to buy the books! He’s my favorite Author! I love the fact he doesn’t charge and I have more respect for him because HE DOES NOT!!!!

Way to go Tony with this Article you nailed it!!!!

]]> By: Tom http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/2010/10/29/rock-and-shock-the-day-my-love-died/comment-page-1/#comment-4705 Tom Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:45:47 +0000 http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/?p=3342#comment-4705 An old saying - appropriate for horror and a lessen for over-charging celebs- You can sheer a sheep often, you can only skin a sheep once. An old saying – appropriate for horror and a lessen for over-charging celebs-

You can sheer a sheep often, you can only skin a sheep once.

]]> By: Tony D http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/2010/10/29/rock-and-shock-the-day-my-love-died/comment-page-1/#comment-4683 Tony D Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:07:27 +0000 http://scarsmagazine.com/blog/?p=3342#comment-4683 Elizabeth, I will completely echo what Fallon and Ray have said. To be 13 and meet an idol is something I wish we could all have again. You NEED to go and meet Robert. He is a very sweet and friendly guy, and I have never had any bad experiences with him. And Kaitlin, let me take a step back on Bill Mosley. Again, remove that ONE experience and I would not be able to say ONE BAD THING ABOUT THE MAN. He needs to make a living and he is one of the busiest men working in Horror. He does not live on that ONE ROLE! Sure he is Chop Top and Otis to me, but he is ALWAYS working. So kudos to him for not resting on his past. BUT I will stand by what I said. Make sure you bring a loaded wallet when you go. Have fun at the con guys... Tony D Elizabeth, I will completely echo what Fallon and Ray have said. To be 13 and meet an idol is something I wish we could all have again.
You NEED to go and meet Robert. He is a very sweet and friendly guy, and I have never had any bad experiences with him.
And Kaitlin, let me take a step back on Bill Mosley. Again, remove that ONE experience and I would not be able to say ONE BAD THING ABOUT THE MAN. He needs to make a living and he is one of the busiest men working in Horror. He does not live on that ONE ROLE! Sure he is Chop Top and Otis to me, but he is ALWAYS working. So kudos to him for not resting on his past.
BUT I will stand by what I said. Make sure you bring a loaded wallet when you go.
Have fun at the con guys…
Tony D

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